The ITU is desperately trying to find its niche and justify its existence in the new telecommunications scene. They lost terrain in the standards arena to the IETF and the predominance of TCP/IP, in the local and metropolitan area networks to IEEE and Ethernet, voice communications to VOIP, in content to W3C, and the administration of Internet resources such as address and numbers to ICANN. This represents a tectonic displacement for an organization that have been entrenched in telecommunications since its inception as the International Telegraph Union in 1865. We need both ICANN and the ITU, and I agree that not ICANN nor the ITU provide the all inclusive framework for the grand discussion about Internet Governance. To be frank not even the IGF does, the plenary sessions are a constant parade of different groups making statements and where everybody talks but nobody listens, each one - as somebody regularly says - "in their respective roles". Regards Jorge